Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints

Sacred Legions interview secular saints, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. Hosted by Max Goller and Pat LaMarche, we find out what inspired our guests in ...more

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About the Show

Sacred Legions interview secular saints, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. Hosted by Max Goller and Pat LaMarche, we find out what inspired our guests in their saintly journey and ask them to contribute volunteer and self-care resources for our audience that they will be able to find on our website, sacredlegions.org. As Kurt said, ""No damn cat and no damn cradle...There is only one rule I know of babies—goddamn it, you've got to be kind!"

Meet our Hosts

Max Goller

Max Goller

Max Goller is the founder and president of Sacred Legions, a podcasting company created to honor secular saints as defined by their patron saint, Kurt Vonnegut: "Someone who behaves decently in a shockingly indecent society." Max serves on the board of the 501(c)(3) Charles Bruce Foundation and volunteers as the Tour Coordinator for the Ray Bradbury Center. A retired United States Navy electronics technician and middle school English teacher, Max is also a Hoosier Writing Project Consultant. He holds a bachelor’s degree in workforce education from Southern Illinois University, a master’s degree in English from Indiana University, and is a Harvard School of Education-trained teaching specialist. Max first ventured into public storytelling as the Director of Education at the Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library in Indianapolis, Indiana. He has presented at various teaching conferences, including the National Council of Teachers of English, the Sinclair Lewis Writers’ Conference, the Association of Writers and Writing Programs, and the Indiana Teachers of Writing Conference.

Pat LaMarche

Pat LaMarche

Born in Providence, Rhode Island, educated at Boston College and the University of Amsterdam, Pat LaMarche now lives in central Pennsylvania. Pat spent decades as a broadcaster turned homeless advocate. After years of reporting on poverty around the globe and here at home, Pat went to work with the nation's most forgotten and least understood. Pat dabbled in broad spectrum social change, culminating in a 2004 run for Vice President of the United States. Pat is now self employed, writing books, donating her time to the foundation she and her husband started to support Writers, Artists and Musicians (WAM!).